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What Does It Take For a Police Officer to Get Fired ???

Facial_King

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
He should be fired and any officer like him.

Shooting an unarmed "suspect" should not be tolerated.
 

hedonis

I can set my own custom title!
What DOES it take for a police officer to get fired???


:dunno:

Lots. I can tell from back when I was one, it is very difficult, and the unions are one thing that make it very difficult. We had several officers throughout my career that should have been fired, and for whatever reason, these folks just were hard to get rid of.

And usually, when they finally were gotten rid of, it was because they had kind of been pushed into resigning.

H
 

Galactic

Pain heals, chicks dig scars, Freeones lasts forever
I was glad to see that the BART police officer (in Oakland, CA) was finally arrested (way to go citizens with cellphone cameras!):

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/13/BAM615A08A.DTL

but short of actually murdering an unarmed suspect lying face down, the question is still worth asking - What DOES it take for a police officer to get fired???

http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2009/01/what_does_it_take_for_a_police.php

:dunno:

I think you actually just answered your own question......they have to kill someone. Talk about job security.:(
 

Magnet

Offline? What's that?
haha...Down here in Louisiana a cap just got busted from driving while drunk.

The kicker? He was in a marked cop car.
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
I was glad to see that the BART police officer (in Oakland, CA) was finally arrested (way to go citizens with cellphone cameras!):

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/13/BAM615A08A.DTL

but short of actually murdering an unarmed suspect lying face down, the question is still worth asking - What DOES it take for a police officer to get fired???

http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2009/01/what_does_it_take_for_a_police.php

:dunno:

In the eyes of many, it takes a lot for a police officer to get fired. But, look at this way...

Being a police officer is a job. It is no different than working as a librarian at a school, as a CFO for a fortune 500 company or as a manager at Arby's; they're all jobs.

The only difference is that the public holds police officers to a higher set of standards. If a police officer does something that isn't even all that bad, people will still get really upset about, for no other reason than that they are a police officer.

If a librarian yells at a teenager for loitering in front of the library, most people would be like, "Good for her. It's about time that somebody told these teenagers off."

If a police officer yells at a teenager for loitering in front of the library, most people would be like, "What a dick. Fucking cops."

If an Arby's manager got arrested for a DUI, you probably wouldn't hear about it on the news. Even if it was on the news, most people wouldn't even care about it.

If a police officer gets arrested for a DUI, you always hear about it on the news and people always want that officer to be immediately fired.

Why? Just because somebody is a police officer doesn't mean that they will never make mistakes. Nobody is perfect, no matter what job they have.
 

noblert10

I ran out of lube. Can I borrow yours?
That's so right I'm tired of the double standard. Especially with this generation Y where the youth all act like they aren't scared of the police and that they are above them. I've seen these same "gangsters" piss their pants when questioned by the police. (figuratively and literally)
 

Ceska

Pussy Wrangler
Got to respectfully disagree with the Chef.

True everyone makes mistakes but...

Just like a sweet librarian?..."Good for him. It's about time that somebody told these teenagers off."??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgWrV8TcUc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FedlpshJb4c&feature=related
Fired? - nope - (suspended with pay - and this only because it was on video/youtube)

Fired?
http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/5/Police-Brutally-Beat-Suspects-499438.html
Nope...

Police officers should be held to a higher standard.
Restaurant managers are not bestowed with the public trust to uphold the law and given the power and authority to potentially take a citizen's life.
If the restaurant manager forces you around, you are allowed to defend yourself. This is not so with a police officer - not because they are above the law - but because of the public trust with which they have been bestowed.

Do we want DUI officers handing out tickets for DUI?

If a police officer commits serious criminal acts they are breaking the law and betraying the public trust as well as their oath. This public trust can and should be taken from them.

The reason why this doesn't happen in practice is as hedonis explained.
 

Sicario

Out of my mind. Back in five minutes.
What DOES it take for a police officer to get fired???
:dunno:

For starters, make your young wife disappear, re-launch an investigation into your second wifes death and totally act like a smug asshole in front of the national media. Just ask Drew Peterson.

My mom lives in Bolingbrook and she runs into him every now and then.
 

STDiva

I'm too lazy to set a usertitle.
In the eyes of many, it takes a lot for a police officer to get fired. But, look at this way...

Being a police officer is a job. It is no different than working as a librarian at a school, as a CFO for a fortune 500 company or as a manager at Arby's; they're all jobs.

The only difference is that the public holds police officers to a higher set of standards. If a police officer does something that isn't even all that bad, people will still get really upset about, for no other reason than that they are a police officer.

If a librarian yells at a teenager for loitering in front of the library, most people would be like, "Good for her. It's about time that somebody told these teenagers off."

If a police officer yells at a teenager for loitering in front of the library, most people would be like, "What a dick. Fucking cops."

If an Arby's manager got arrested for a DUI, you probably wouldn't hear about it on the news. Even if it was on the news, most people wouldn't even care about it.

If a police officer gets arrested for a DUI, you always hear about it on the news and people always want that officer to be immediately fired.

Why? Just because somebody is a police officer doesn't mean that they will never make mistakes. Nobody is perfect, no matter what job they have.

This guy didn't make a mistake. Its not like he was gambling with his buddies in his garage. He shot and killed a guy that was lying facedown and unarmed. That is not a mistake.

A cop that drives around drunk should be fired. That isn't a mistake either.

You can't break the laws you are supposed to be upholding. If you do than you shouldn't be allowed to be a cop.
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Got to respectfully disagree with the Chef.

True everyone makes mistakes but...

Just like a sweet librarian?..."Good for him. It's about time that somebody told these teenagers off."??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgWrV8TcUc

The only thing that officer did that was wrong was grabbing that kid and getting physical with him as he took his skateboard. Other than that, what did he do that would warrant a firing?

All he did was get loud and intimidating. Umm...all police officers do that, especially with younger teens. I don't see a problem with that at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FedlpshJb4c&feature=related
Fired? - nope - (suspended with pay - and this only because it was on video/youtube)

First of all, they didn't show the whole tape. They just showed a very, very short clip of the situation. From what was shown, all he did was kick that guy's RC car. Sure, he shouldn't have done that, but should that warrant a firing? No. He's a loud police officer...so what? I haven't met a police officer who isn't loud and stern.


From what is shown in that clip, those officers immediately started punching and kicking those suspects. From what is shown in that clip, that is wrong and they should be fired for doing so.

But, what happened before that clip started playing? Why were there so many officers? Was there a dangerous, high speed chase? Did they kill somebody? Did they kill a police officer? :dunno:

From the way it looks, the police officers were kicking them for no reason. But, maybe there was a reason. Who knows?

If there was no reason, then all of the officers who were unnecessarily physical with the suspects should've been fired.

Police officers should be held to a higher standard.
Restaurant managers are not bestowed with the public trust to uphold the law and given the power and authority to potentially take a citizen's life.
If the restaurant manager forces you around, you are allowed to defend yourself. This is not so with a police officer - not because they are above the law - but because of the public trust with which they have been bestowed.

Bus drivers have been bestowed with public trust too. I mean, they drive around in huge buses that weigh thousands of pounds through busy streets and neighborhoods, carrying the potential to kill not only the passengers they carry, but pedestrians as well. So, if a bus driver breaks the law by stealing a DVD, should they be fired? I mean, they have public trust and could potentially take the life of a citizen, so they should have higher standards too, right?

No. Like I said before, being a police officer is their job. They shouldn't be held to some sort of theoretical and societally enforced higher standard just because they put on a badge. Complaining about the police is something that people do just to do it.

Do we want DUI officers handing out tickets for DUI?

Do we want vegetarians serving us a Big Mac? Do we want fat people helping us lose weight? Do we want gay men telling us how to pick up women?

If they're good at their job and they're helping people, what does it matter if they seem hypocritical?

Also, the best people to get help from are the people who have made the same mistakes that you have. People who want to quit drinking don't talk to somebody who has never had a sip of alcohol. They get help from somebody who has made the same mistakes that they have.

:2 cents:

If a police officer commits serious criminal acts they are breaking the law and betraying the public trust as well as their oath. This public trust can and should be taken from them.

There's a huge difference between a serious criminal act and forcefully grabbing a teenager's skateboard and yelling at him. Just because a police officer puts on a badge, why should those two things all of a sudden become equals?

:dunno:

This guy didn't make a mistake. Its not like he was gambling with his buddies in his garage. He shot and killed a guy that was lying facedown and unarmed. That is not a mistake.

Obviously there are instances where a police officer deserves to be fired. Just like there are instances where a computer technician, HR manager or mechanic deserve to be fired.

A cop that drives around drunk should be fired. That isn't a mistake either.

I worked in sales when I got my DUI. Should the sales company that I worked for have fired me? :dunno:

It's a double standard to hold police officers to higher standards than others. They are regular citizens, just like everybody else. They get up and go to work, just like everybody else. They will make mistakes, just like everybody else. Yet, everybody else expects them to be perfect human beings, 24/7, which is an unrealistic expectation.

You can't break the laws you are supposed to be upholding. If you do than you shouldn't be allowed to be a cop.

Well, you can't break laws period. It has nothing to do with being a police officer; you just can't break the law. But, just because you break the law, it doesn't mean that you should be fired for it.

If a police officer gets a speeding ticket, should they be fired?
If a police officer doesn't pay their taxes, should they be fired?
If a police officer beats his wife, should they be fired?
etc...

:dunno:
 

pancha

Would you hit it?
In the eyes of many, it takes a lot for a police officer to get fired. But, look at this way...

Being a police officer is a job. It is no different than working as a librarian at a school, as a CFO for a fortune 500 company or as a manager at Arby's; they're all jobs.

The only difference is that the public holds police officers to a higher set of standards. If a police officer does something that isn't even all that bad, people will still get really upset about, for no other reason than that they are a police officer.

If a librarian yells at a teenager for loitering in front of the library, most people would be like, "Good for her. It's about time that somebody told these teenagers off."

If a police officer yells at a teenager for loitering in front of the library, most people would be like, "What a dick. Fucking cops."

If an Arby's manager got arrested for a DUI, you probably wouldn't hear about it on the news. Even if it was on the news, most people wouldn't even care about it.

If a police officer gets arrested for a DUI, you always hear about it on the news and people always want that officer to be immediately fired.

Why? Just because somebody is a police officer doesn't mean that they will never make mistakes. Nobody is perfect, no matter what job they have.

I agree with you to a point, but not on the DUI one! MANY, MANY cops get off on this one because they are cops, and no other reason! When you are handing out fines and whatever associated costs for DUI's, and handing them out not for safety reasons, but because they are viewed as an outstanding source of revenue, I think this skews perceptions quite a bit!

Otherwise, considering the day to day job they undertake, the associated stress and all that comes along with it, I think they are SEVERELY under paid and under appreciated!!!!
 

24788

☼LEGIT☼
I hate most of the cops in the United States. The ones that think they're above the law. Their will always be good and bad in all, but most cops are cocky.

I have broken the law numerous times. Most cops are to slow and untrained to catch anyone. I think that's why they take pleasure in torturing innocent people because they can't catch the guilty. That's not all the cops in America though.
 

Torre82

Moderator
Staff member
Cops.. I've got nothing good to say about the majority of them. Calling them 'The Fun Police' is more apt. They've skipped more bad drivers.. pulled over more soccer moms. They crash parties instead of meth labs. The whole quota thing.. revenue issue.. is something that needs to be addressed. Much law is being broken and many small things are big deals when they shouldnt be.

That's just in the major cities. Small town cops are fucking useless and I wish much harm upon them. Useless backwoods fucktards dont even earn their paychecks.

As far as DUI's go.. that's an issue pushed far... far too hard by MADD and the quota thing. They keep lowering the blood alcohol limit over... and over.. it's gotten to the point where if you have one beer fresh on your breath and not showing any other signs of intoxication then you could go to jail or worse. BAC testing isnt perfect. BAC is unique from one person to the next. Between genders. This alchol-testing science is inexact and yet.. they believe in the system. Bah.
 

CRASHnBURN

Winning, duh.
In the eyes of many, it takes a lot for a police officer to get fired. But, look at this way...

Being a police officer is a job. It is no different than working as a librarian at a school, as a CFO for a fortune 500 company or as a manager at Arby's; they're all jobs.

There is a difference, a cop have bigger risk in their jobs than others.

The only difference is that the public holds police officers to a higher set of standards. If a police officer does something that isn't even all that bad, people will still get really upset about, for no other reason than that they are a police officer.

If a librarian yells at a teenager for loitering in front of the library, most people would be like, "Good for her. It's about time that somebody told these teenagers off."

If a police officer yells at a teenager for loitering in front of the library, most people would be like, "What a dick. Fucking cops."

If an Arby's manager got arrested for a DUI, you probably wouldn't hear about it on the news. Even if it was on the news, most people wouldn't even care about it.

If a police officer gets arrested for a DUI, you always hear about it on the news and people always want that officer to be immediately fired.

Why? Just because somebody is a police officer doesn't mean that they will never make mistakes. Nobody is perfect, no matter what job they have.

Of course somebody will get upset when a cop breaks the law that they have to enforce, and not just because they are a cop.

If a librarian always put books in the wrong section or gets noisy inside a library, people will get upset, why? because they are breaking the rules inside the library, rules that they should be enforcing.

same with cops, not because people have higher standards for cops, its because they shouldn't be breaking the rules that they should be enforcing.
 
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