What If..........?

[STDiva]

what if Chibi(Lead singer of The Birthday Massacre) asked me out.....i would so say yes. lol

What if you didn't mention that shit band in 86% of your posts?

 

[Hot Mega]

That theory presuppose evil has no purpose. It also suggests it's something that happens instead of something that is done by (in this case) human action.

Evil isn't the product of things it's produced from human acts of free will IMO.

If that's true all that would mean is God didn't make us robots preprogrammed to only do 'good'.

So then what could be the theoretical purpose of (good and) evil? In the context of free will, tools to judge? :dunno:

 

[xfire]

Basically you're saying that evil is ultimately good. Why is it that pain and suffering seem to be arbitrarily distributed where it is often the case that the blameless suffer the most while the vicious go unscathed? Why is suffering many times out of proportion with with what might reasonably be required for character building?

 

[Member442]

what if the Mars was populated and the book The war of the Worlds had really happened in our past?

 

[Hot Mega]

Basically you're saying that evil is ultimately good. Why is it that pain and suffering seem to be arbitrarily distributed where it is often the case that the blameless suffer the most while the vicious go unscathed? Why is suffering many times out of proportion with with what might reasonably be required for character building?

I'm not saying it is good or equals 'good'. I'm saying purpose doesn't discriminate what serves it.

There are probably many things that we understand as bad or evil but may have implications incalculable to our immediate or practical understanding.

If we believe humans are endowed with or have (if you will) free will then it makes sense that 'good' wouldn't be the only product of our actions. The free will to only do good?

 

[xfire]

I find it hard to reconcile the idea that good (or evil) is merely the product of our actions. For example HIV/AIDS, floods, fires, earthquakes, "acts of God" as it were in no way undermines or diminishes freewill if all of these natural evils were stopped by His intervention.

 

[Hot Mega]

I find it hard to reconcile the idea that good (or evil) is merely the product of our actions. For example HIV/AIDS, floods, fires, earthquakes, "acts of God" as it were in no way undermines or diminishes freewill if all of these natural evils were stopped by His intervention.

You're talking different things. Evil or good is the production of human, free will action.

Natural phenomena (even HIV) isn't evil nor good since as far as I know these things aren't the product of some conscious thought.

But even as such, if we lived in a world where we weren't protected per se from the whims of intelligent life...why would we be per se protected from natural, condition based phenomena?

Point is, it wouldn't make much sense if life is meant in some degree to be met with challenges for us to be protected from every eventuality. Certainly there is a purpose for humans to be met with challenge.

 

[Tittyman5000]

What if Lindsay Lohan had a twin?

 

[xfire]

If good and evil are the production of humans I would extrapolate that God and The Devil are man-made as well.

 

[Neutron66]

What if Mike Nesmith from the Monkees hadn't sold his idea for a music video show to the Nickelodeon network?

We never would've had MTV!!!

 

[Ulysses31]

Trotsky had replaced Lenin instead of Stalin, what would Russia had been like?

 

[Hot Mega]

You're talking different things. Evil or good is the product of human, free will action.

Natural phenomena (even HIV) isn't evil or good since as far as I know these things aren't the product of some conscious thought.

But even as such, if we live in a world where we aren't protected per se from the whims of intelligent life...why would we be per se protected from natural, condition based phenomena?

Point is, it wouldn't make much sense if life is meant in some degree to be met with challenges for us to be protected from every eventuality. Certainly there is a purpose for humans to be met with challenge.

If good and evil are the production of humans I would extrapolate that God and The Devil are man-made as well.

re 'production': My above post was somewhat of a fail from a typo standpoint. It should have read according to the bold corrections.

re your extrapolation: You could. But for the sake of argument since we understand 'good' and 'evil' are tangible and real, wouldn't your extrapolation equally render God and the devil as real then too?

 

[xfire]

In such a case "god" and "devil" are rendered redundant because one is the the embodiment of all that is good and the other the embodiment of all that is evil.

 

[Hot Mega]

In such a case "god" and "devil" are rendered redundant because one is the the embodiment of all that is good and the other the embodiment of all that is evil.

Meaning God and devil are redundant to 'good' and 'evil'? If so hence, good and evil extrapolations are both real.

The Epicurean conundrum posits the existence of 'evil' disproves the existence of God and/or challenges His nature given He does exist.

Again, that theory presupposes 'evil' serves no purpose. Fundamentally, we accept (know) 'good' serves purpose. Why wouldn't it's near opposite, 'evil' serve purpose too? Even if the purpose weren't readily apparent or calculable to our understanding.

A more interesting conundrum would be if only 'good' were allowed to happen what would we call it in cases where a 'good' occurred for someone at the expense of 'bad' occurring for someone else?

 

[Kingfisher]

What if... people around you observed your personal space.
What if... the customer is always right, became the standard again.
What if... When you buy something and say thank you, the turd at the register says, you're welcome.

 

[mrtrebus]

What if... people around you observed your personal space.
What if... the customer is always right, became the standard again.
What if... When you buy something and say thank you, the turd at the register says, you're welcome.

Speaking turds? Whatever next? :dunno:

 

[xfire]

According to Christian belief god is omniscient, omnipotent, and benevolent. Evil exists therefore god must not in the form that Christians claim.

How can you claim freewill from "the creator"? Assuming that God created the universe, everything from the point of creation forward must be predetermined.

 

[Member442]

What if...this thread gets moved to the games section?

 

[Hot Mega]

According to Christian belief god is omniscient, omnipotent, and benevolent. Evil exists therefore god must not in the form that Christians claim.

How can you claim freewill from "the creator"? Assuming that God created the universe, everything from the point of creation forward must be predetermined.

More telling is Christians believe you will be judged according to your works. What would be the point of subsequent judgement if your works were necessarily preordained?

What if neither fate nor free will are absolutes but are interdependent?

IMO if one accepts the notion that 'good' serves a purpose then it's only logical that 'evil' does too.

Holding the view that the presence of evil disproves the existence of God is not well thought out IMO because it only assumes outcomes the disbeliever can relate to.

 

[MissHybrid]

Could someone give me a one sentence precise of what this thread is about please.

Miss Hybid

Ps

Did I mention I am the current miss euro tart?