who would Jesus torture?

[lurkingdirk]

Re: who would Jesus torture?

Anti waterboarders, mohammadanists & Dee Snyder






Correction, A carpenter.

^^ International Standard Version (©2008)
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Get away from me, you who are accursed, into the eternal fire that has been prepared for the devil and his angels!" Matth 25:41.

2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

This quote is just in response to a few posts made over the past couple of months alone where folk seem to think God has it in for Mankind.

Hell is "prepared for the devil and his angels." Humans were never meant to go there. It is not God's intent nor is it nor was it ever His intent or will to send anyone human there, ever.

It is a terrible reality. There is a way out though.

this is proof-texting at its worst.

 

[Will E Worm]

International Standard Version (©2008)

You have to get another Bible. :angels:

 

[Wainkerr99]

What is the best "proof texting?"

 

[lurkingdirk]

What is the best "proof texting?"

fair point. proof texting=poop.

 

[Wainkerr99]

Somewhat off topic. OK, I Googled prooftexting, then saw this on Wikipedia.

"Prooftexting is the practice of using decontextualised quotations from a document (often, but not always, a book of the Bible) to establish a proposition. Critics of the technique note that often the document, when read as a whole, may not in fact support the proposition."

It is just I don't know how else to make this point. It is something I wanted to say months ago. Anyway, it is just 'apologetics.' I just feel if someone says God - believer or no - thinks He sits around all day waiting to pop people off into a terrible eternity, well, it isn't His intention.

No - one accepts proof of God. If one person does, like if he/she has some amazing thing happen, as did Dion DiMucchi of "Dion And the Belmonts," then, when he tell the other person, that person may dispute it. And so it goes on.

Dion was 'hit' by a light one day while out jogging. He felt God. He was definitely a non-believer at the time. He then started recording Christian music.

Someone could argue the lights went on early in the park that day or some such thing. To him, though, and the lives of people he reached through his music, it was very real.

So I guess I could just say God don't want no-one to go to no hell no way nohow.

 

[Will E Worm]

Jesus was never a socialist. Lurkingdirk needs to use his brain.

Prooftext

Prooftexting is the practice of using decontextualised quotations from a document (often, but not always, a book of the Bible) to establish a proposition. Critics of the technique note that often the document, when read as a whole, may not in fact support the proposition.

During the Protestant Reformation, the Roman Catholic Church accused – fairly or otherwise – the reformers of prooftexting.

If the Roman Catholics are against it...

 

[Philbert]

as usual, the lewd and lascivious are lashing the logical libertines. :jester:

Really? I must'a missed that post...did someone edit out their comment?:computer:
:dunno:

 

[D-rock]

In all honesty, considering Bush claimed Jesus was his hero and all and as much as he touted his religious side, I wonder if that even crossed his mind when he pretty much allowed torture, or if it is just another example of his hypocrisy.

 

[meesterperfect]

jesus wouldn't torture anyone.
"forgive them father, for they know not what they do"

then again, "the meek shall inherrit the earth."
I still haven't seen any evidence of this.
but i have seen, the meek will be attacked over and over again until they
simply cease to exist.

 

[D-rock]

jesus wouldn't torture anyone.
"forgive them father, for they know not what they do"

then again, "the meek shall inherrit the earth."
I still haven't seen any evidence of this.
but i have seen, the meek will be attacked over and over again until they
simply cease to exist.

Just because somebody is meek doesn't mean they will let themselves get stepped on or can't defend themselves. It could also means they have the ability not to use force or power unless it's the last reasonable resort due to discipline, spiritual concerns, or other reasons. Some of the toughest people I know are "meek", and can kick people‘s asses if they must. People don't need to be a warmonger, ruthless, or sadistic to be able to protect themselves.

 

[meesterperfect]

I guess that depends on just how meek.
cage in Kung fu was pretty damn meek, until he got attacked himself or had to protect someone innocent.
i see your point, i hope you see mine.

 

[Philbert]

Meek is a condition, calm or non-aggressive is not the same as meek.
I dealt with serious dogs for many years, and like people many had a calm about them, even a gentleness, that was not indicitive of meekness, but just a lack of overt compensatory aggression and complimented by total confidence.
I know meek people, and it's generally a complete attitude...no steel under the surface.

 

[Galactic]

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is just beeing used like Chavez. The government wants to give us new boogie men. Since El Presidente Fidel Castro is too old.

Yeeeahhhhh.....because Iran and their crazy ass dictator pose no threat to the rest of the cicilized world.....yeah, he's just a boogeyman.

Come on man, get fucking real. The dude is a loose cannon who has proclaimed the Holocaust never happened, and that the entire state of Israel should be wiped from the face of the Earth.

So in a way, you are right about one thing: He is a boogeyman, and one who should not be coddled.

By the way, to the OP, no surprise that our left wing friend got me off topic again, but to answer your question.....no one. Jesus wouldn't need to torture anyone.....I'm pretty sure they would all be forthcoming enough with info. There's only one man who could withstand Jesus' brutal questioning.


Chuck Norris. So actually, there you go, Jesus would have to torture Chuck Norris.

 

[lurkingdirk]

Jesus was never a socialist. Lurkingdirk needs to use his brain.

Prooftext

Prooftexting is the practice of using decontextualised quotations from a document (often, but not always, a book of the Bible) to establish a proposition. Critics of the technique note that often the document, when read as a whole, may not in fact support the proposition.

During the Protestant Reformation, the Roman Catholic Church accused – fairly or otherwise – the reformers of prooftexting.

If the Roman Catholics are against it...

forget it. i had a pithy response here, but i'm just not interested in engaging worm. please don't respond.

 

[Will E Worm]

forget it. i had a pithy response here, but i'm just not interested in engaging worm. please don't respond.

Are you sure?

I bet you're going to start a thread on Socialism now?

 

[mrtrebus]

Jesus was not a Socialist.

Socialists make social programs like welfare for people who can work but won't.
Also, for people to continue to have children out-of-wedlock and then they are rewarded with more money.

Out of wedlock!! Heaven forfend!!
I'm pretty sure Jesus weren't no capitalist! He didn't charge for all that food he produced. & he missed out on a nice little Water-2-Wine Off Licence franchise!!

 

[Will E Worm]

Out of wedlock!! Heaven forfend!!
I'm pretty sure Jesus weren't no capitalist! He didn't charge for all that food he produced. & he missed out on a nice little Water-2-Wine Off Licence franchise!!

I know out-of-wedlock.

I never said Jesus was a Capitalist.