Will texas leave the union

[gunslingingbird]

If Texas, or any other state of the Union, decided it wanted to secede, wouldn't they, in theory, have the right?

From Merriam-Webster Online
State \ˈstāt\ noun.
1 a: mode or condition of being <a state of readiness> b (1): condition of mind or temperament <in a highly nervous state> (2): a condition of abnormal tension or excitement
2 a: a condition or stage in the physical being of something <insects in the larval state> <the gaseous state of water> b: any of various conditions characterized by definite quantities (as of energy, angular momentum, or magnetic moment) in which an atomic system may exist
3 a: social position ; especially : high rank b (1): elaborate or luxurious style of living (2): formal dignity : pomp —usually used with in
4 a: a body of persons constituting a special class in a society : estate 3 b plural : the members or representatives of the governing classes assembled in a legislative body c obsolete : a person of high rank (as a noble)
5 a: a politically organized body of people usually occupying a definite territory ; especially : one that is sovereign b: the political organization of such a body of people c: a government or politically organized society having a particular character <a police state> <the welfare state>
6: the operations or concerns of the government of a country
7 a: one of the constituent units of a nation having a federal government <the fifty states> b plural capitalized : The United States of America
8: the territory of a state

If a politically organized body of people governs over a definite territory sovereignly they don't need any approval from anyone other than their constituency to break away from a coalition of similarly organized sovereign states.

 

[prof_porn]

I am only interested in the secessionist NY movement. Not from a support POV, no stake, but from a historical POV.

 

[titsrock]

I think it would be a great American spectacle to see Texas, led by Ron Paul, try to secede from the U.S. The other time that a U.S. secession movement was "seriously contemplated" was that thing called "The Civil War," right? And wasn't that because the South liked slavery and liked its racist heritage?

 

[thebear247]

we dont need states secede from us we are already in bad enough shape

 

[GabberMan]

I am not anti-europe, i just think that america is trying to beocme like europe with its socialist type of policies. be a leader not a follower

Well, there's a small statement on a massive subject if ever I heard one.

Sorry if this sounds rude, but do you travel much?

 

[Philbert]

I think it would be a great American spectacle to see Texas, led by Ron Paul, try to secede from the U.S. The other time that a U.S. secession movement was "seriously contemplated" was that thing called "The Civil War," right? And wasn't that because the South liked slavery and liked its racist heritage?

Nope, wrong again.
The issue was over states rights...and more important, agrarian vs industrial.
But don't worry about it...you'll just get a headache.
Hey...weren't the Southern states mostly Democratic and Lincoln a Republican? There's something historical you can rewrite and misconstrue!:rofl:

 

[Mauser98k]

"Will texas leave the union?"

who cares? we should sell Texas to Mexico

i'm sick to death of these hard core left wingers whining because they no longer control the government. GET THE FUCK OVER IT! guess what Hannity, Limbaugh and Beck; Obama is not a socialist and he is not a fascist. he is the president as elected by the people and will serve as such until we vote him out or until he's done his job to the point where we let him stay for 8 years. it could be worse and for the last 8 years, it has been.

 

[Philbert]

"Will texas leave the union?"

who cares? we should sell Texas to Mexico

i'm sick to death of these hard core left wingers whining because they no longer control the government. GET THE FUCK OVER IT! guess what Hannity, Limbaugh and Beck; Obama is not a socialist and he is not a fascist. he is the president as elected by the people and will serve as such until we vote him out or until he's done his job to the point where we let him stay for 8 years. it could be worse and for the last 8 years, it has been.

Actually, it would be a better deal to sell Southern California to Mexico, and keep Texas.
Mexico couldn't afford to run California (how much is the current deficit?), and there are more Mexicans there now than Americans.
Texas has a great economy...and intends to keep it that way.

 

[Mauser98k]

Actually, it would be a better deal to sell Southern California to Mexico, and keep Texas.
Mexico couldn't afford to run California (how much is the current deficit?), and there are more Mexicans there now than Americans.
Texas has a great economy...and intends to keep it that way.

no argument there. Kalifornia is done for. we don't really have a deficit anymore, now the state just says we're bankrupt.

good job ahhhnold!

 

[calpoon]

If Texas, or any other state of the Union, decided it wanted to secede, wouldn't they, in theory, have the right?


If a politically organized body of people governs over a definite territory sovereignly they don't need any approval from anyone other than their constituency to break away from a coalition of similarly organized sovereign states.

the thing is who actually "owns" the land?

What it really comes down to is who has the guns. The federal government controls the military, not the states, so they are the ones that will decide what you can and can't do.

 

[bustybbwlover]

Actually, it would be a better deal to sell Southern California to Mexico, and keep Texas.
Mexico couldn't afford to run California (how much is the current deficit?), and there are more Mexicans there now than Americans.
Texas has a great economy...and intends to keep it that way.

california is fucked right now, but selling a part of one of the largest economies in the world never makes much economic sense
"California is now the eighth ranking economy in the world, about the size of Mainland China, and larger than Brazil, Canada or Spain. California's gross product exceeded the trillion-dollar mark in 1997, the first state to achieve this record."
http://www.dof.ca.gov/HTML/FS_DATA/HistoryCAEconomy/index.htm

 

[Hot Mega]

Actually, it would be a better deal to sell Southern California to Mexico, and keep Texas.
Mexico couldn't afford to run California (how much is the current deficit?), and there are more Mexicans there now than Americans.
Texas has a great economy...and intends to keep it that way.

Texas like Alaska hasn't done anything in particular from a policy stand point to have their state economy thrive except for being lucky enough to have large oil reserves within their borders, be home to allot of oil industry firms and be the home state to a president who engaged in policy which further enriched the economic engine of his state.

Ironically, the origins of California's economic woes center around fraudulent business practices of Texas based energy firms Enron and Reliant. Also, a report suggests well over 40 of our 50 states could face bankruptcy...so California's original problems haven't been help by the overall economic malaise the entire country finds itself in.

 

[Facial_King]

I can't say I'd miss it so much...

 

[Hot Mega]

I guess Rick Perry now sees membership has it's privileges... :rofl2:

Texas Governor orders stockpile of Swine Flu treatment

Feed Governor Rick Perry placed a big order on Sunday, asking for 37,430 doses of antiviral medication for the growing spread of deadly Swine Flu. The order would move those anti-viral doses from the Strategic National Stockpile in hopes of preventing the spread of Swine Flu within the Texas Borders. The Texas Department of State Health Services is already tracking 3 cases in Texas. In a statement, the governor's office calls this move a "precautionary...

http://article.wn.com/view/2009/04/26/Texas_Governor_orders_stockpile_of_Swine_Flu_treatment/

 

[anairhead999]

that would suck because texas toast wouldnt be an american thing anymore :rofl:

 

[bustybbwlover]

we could call it freedom toast

 

[gunslingingbird]

What it really comes down to is who has the guns. The federal government controls the military, not the states, so they are the ones that will decide what you can and can't do.

And that was exactly what started the Northern Aggression War back in the 1860's.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

I wish states did have the right to leave the Union. Some states are better off than others and should be able to simply take care of their own, and it is a constitutional right, I believe. I think America was a better country under the Articles, but I have not devoted enough to the subject to opine thoroughly. But it is intruiging to think about it. 50 little "countries" with their own rights and abilities. Imagine how much better we'd be off w/out a federal goverment. :hatsoff:

 

[gunslingingbird]

I wish states did have the right to leave the Union. Some states are better off than others and should be able to simply take care of their own, and it is a constitutional right, I believe. I think America was a better country under the Articles, but I have not devoted enough to the subject to opine thoroughly. But it is intruiging to think about it. 50 little "countries" with their own rights and abilities. Imagine how much better we'd be off w/out a federal goverment.

Some states, like California, would be able to hold their own just fine, but others, like Mississippi, wouldn't even know what hit them.

 

[Hot Mega]

I wish states did have the right to leave the Union. Some states are better off than others and should be able to simply take care of their own, and it is a constitutional right, I believe. I think America was a better country under the Articles, but I have not devoted enough to the subject to opine thoroughly. But it is intruiging to think about it. 50 little "countries" with their own rights and abilities. Imagine how much better we'd be off w/out a federal goverment. :hatsoff:

I disagree. The Europeans are seeing the benefits of having a common currency among contiguous nation states.

We have union under a Constitution and the only authorized secession territory is D.C.